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Inside the Private Stock Market Boom: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI & the Rise of Secondaries

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Published
June 7, 2026
Duration
39:38
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Last updated
Jun 10, 2026

Discusses openai, anthropic, agents, ai-regulation.

Summary

(0:00) Brad Gerstner, Gavin Baker, and Kelly Rodriques join the Besties! (0:47) Secondary Markets are Booming & Competing with IPOs (3:10) Why Companies are Staying Private So Long? (9:22) SPVs, the Forge-Schwab Deal, Democratizing Private Market Access (13:28) Secondary Markets as Exit Liquidity for VCs (27:00) The Private Market Bubble? (32:03) Hottest …

Forge CEO, Atreides CIO Gavin Baker, and Brad Gerstner debate the secondary market boom, why great companies stay private too long, retail investor risks, and share their top private market picks.

Key takeaways

  • Secondary markets have hit record volume—now at 2x the 2021 peak—with transactions trading at a 106% premium to NAV in Q1 2025, making secondaries a legitimate third exit path alongside IPOs and M&A.
  • Staying private longer creates information asymmetry and sycophancy risks for founders, as private investors avoid hard truths to maintain deal access, unlike the rigorous scrutiny of public markets.
  • Retail democratization of private markets is accelerating via interval funds, Schwab-Forge partnerships, and potential SEC accreditation reform, but experts warn of YOLO behavior at peak valuations and double-fee SPV structures exploiting unsophisticated investors.

Why this matters

The structural maturation of private secondary markets—combined with regulatory shifts, institutional dry powder, and retail platform access—is fundamentally redrawing the capital formation lifecycle for late-stage companies, forcing B2B allocators, LPs, and fund managers to rethink liquidity strategy, DPI timelines, and fiduciary obligations.

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(0:00) Brad Gerstner, Gavin Baker, and Kelly Rodriques join the Besties! (0:47) Secondary Markets are Booming & Competing with IPOs (3:10) Why Companies are Staying Private So Long? (9:22) SPVs, the Forge-Schwab Deal, Democratizing Private Market Access (13:28) Secondary Markets as Exit Liquidity for VCs (27:00) The Private Market Bubble? (32:03) Hottest Secondary Companies Right Now Thanks to our partners for making this possible! EY - Agentic AI is introducing a new investment discipline. As A

Themes

  • openai
  • anthropic
  • agents
  • ai-regulation