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Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Published
July 16, 2026
Duration
1h 24m
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Last updated
Jul 22, 2026

Discusses We’ve got the first of a two-part series on the systems that run the world: I’m talking today with B…

Summary

We’ve got the first of a two-part series on the systems that run the world: I’m talking today with Bart Butler, the CTO of Proton, the company that makes private and secure productivity software. There’s a lot of big Decoder themes in this one. That includes how Proton has structured its ownership and architected its products to align its incentives with …

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We’ve got the first of a two-part series on the systems that run the world: I’m talking today with Bart Butler, the CTO of Proton, the company that makes private and secure productivity software. There’s a lot of big Decoder themes in this one. That includes how Proton has structured its ownership and architected its products to align its incentives with protecting users. At the same time, Proton faces new challenges and pressures, both at home in Switzerland and from the EU and US government th

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