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Microsoft AI CEO says AI threats are real, and Anthropic is making it worse

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Published
September 17, 2026
Duration
52:59
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Last updated
Sep 20, 2026

Discusses anthropic.

Summary

Today, I’m talking with Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI. As you’re no doubt aware, the biggest story in tech right now is the spiraling debate about AI safety and regulation. So I really wanted to talk to Mustafa about what he thinks is real and not in AI safety, whether the concept of alignment itself is up to the task, and whether this industr…

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Today, I’m talking with Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI. As you’re no doubt aware, the biggest story in tech right now is the spiraling debate about AI safety and regulation. So I really wanted to talk to Mustafa about what he thinks is real and not in AI safety, whether the concept of alignment itself is up to the task, and whether this industry needs to slow down before it kills us all. Read the ⁠full interview transcript on The Verge⁠. Links: A warning about ‘model welfare’ | Mustaf

Themes

  • anthropic