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Can CEO John Ternus find Apple's next big thing?

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Published
September 21, 2026
Duration
58:26
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Last updated
Sep 23, 2026

Discusses Today, I’m talking with Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who is the world’s best-sourced Apple reporter. Ear…

Summary

Today, I’m talking with Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who is the world’s best-sourced Apple reporter. Earlier this month, Apple hosted its annual iPhone hardware event, and this event was special, for a number of reasons. It was new Apple CEO John Ternus’ first major product launch. It was also the debut of the foldable iPhone Duo. So I wanted Mark on the show…

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Today, I’m talking with Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who is the world’s best-sourced Apple reporter. Earlier this month, Apple hosted its annual iPhone hardware event, and this event was special, for a number of reasons. It was new Apple CEO John Ternus’ first major product launch. It was also the debut of the foldable iPhone Duo. So I wanted Mark on the show to explain why this event was so important, and how John Ternus’ Apple will look a lot different from Tim Cook’s. Links: Apple iPhone Duo laun