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Kelly McGonigal (on joy)

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Published
November 4, 2026
Duration
2h 8m
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Last updated
Nov 4, 2026

Discusses Kelly McGonigal (Joy Is a Risk Worth Taking, The Joy of Movement, The Upside of Stress) is a psychol…

Summary

Kelly McGonigal (Joy Is a Risk Worth Taking, The Joy of Movement, The Upside of Stress) is a psychologist, bestselling author, and dance instructor. Kelly joins Armchair Expert to discuss growing up with a mirror twin in New Jersey, navigating childhood with unexplained chronic pain, and finding freedom at Boston University. Kelly and Dax talk about study…

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Kelly McGonigal (Joy Is a Risk Worth Taking, The Joy of Movement, The Upside of Stress) is a psychologist, bestselling author, and dance instructor. Kelly joins Armchair Expert to discuss growing up with a mirror twin in New Jersey, navigating childhood with unexplained chronic pain, and finding freedom at Boston University. Kelly and Dax talk about studying psychopaths recruited through newspaper ads, sneaking compassion into her viral TED Talk, and spreading joy in dance class despite her own